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To be a friend..ONE must be the same NO?


Lead me from dreaming to waking.
Lead me from opacity to clarity. Lead me from the complicated to the simple. Lead me from the obscure to the obvious. Lead me from intention to attention. Lead me from what I'm told I am to what I see I am. Lead me from confrontation to wide openness. Lead me to the place I never left, Where there is peace, and peace -from the Upanishads- Unless you know the emptiness and bliss inside yourself..you'll be a robot forced by the same emptiness and bliss trying to know itself..by pain.. ...inside your self also..trust me!..said the mahayogi!
In silence there must be movement, and in motion,
There must be silence.
A small movement is better than a big one..
No movement is better than a small one..listen!
Silence is all the movement's mother..
In Movement you should be like a dragon or a tiger.
In non Movement you should be like a Buddha.  
-- Wang Xiangzhai(November 26, 1885 - July 12, 1963}
What is referred to as mindlessness is absence of the human mentality; what is referred to as mindfulness is mindfulness of the Tao. When one is free of the human mentality, the mutual sensing of the earthly and celestial is swift; when one is mindful of the Tao, effective practice endures. Swiftness of sensing comes about spontaneously, without cultivation, without striving; long perseverance comes about through effort, and involves action and striving. Striving and non-striving each has its secret; the distinction is all a matter of the absence of the human mentality and the presence of mindfulness of the Tao. After one has reached complete realization of the universal Tao, neither existence nor nonexistence remain; others and self are ultimately empty, and one enters the state of ultimate truthfulness, like a spirit. Here, it is not only the human mentality that cannot be applied; even the mindfulness of Tao is not applicable." - Liu I-ming The Conduct of the Moon and Clouds 

The consistent conduct of people of the Way is like the flowing clouds with no grasping mind, like the full moon reflecting universally, not confined anywhere, glistening within each of the ten thousand forms. Dignified and upright, emerge and make contact with the variety of phenomena, unstained and unconfused. Function the same toward all others since all have the same substance as you. Language cannot transmit this, speculation cannot reach it. Leaping beyond the infinite and cutting off the dependent, be obliging without looking for merit. This marvel cannot be measured with consciousness or emotion. On the journey accept your function, in your house please sustain it. Comprehending birth and death, leaving causes and conditions, genuinely realize that from the outset your spirit is not halted. So we have been told that the mind that embraces all the ten directions does not stop anywhere. -- Hongzhi Zhengjue (1091-1157)
Lead me from dreaming to waking.
Lead me from opacity to clarity.
Lead me from the complicated to the simple.
Lead me from the obscure to the obvious.
Lead me from intention to attention.
Lead me from what I'm told I am to what I see I am.
Lead me from confrontation to wide openness.
Lead me to the place I never left,
Where there is peace, and peace - The Upanishads 
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This is about victor way 
 The old buddha  I can relate his site of
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truth to tell//few people I can relate..since i am a Buddha//they say..ok   be friends
I Love anyone..but friendship...???

To be a friend..ONE must be the same
NO?
is never like...ok you are this..I am that.. 
I am  what I am...I am....you are what you are...but I love you because I am the same spirit within you..not love your faults..not blaming you.etc...kissi
Thus spokenth the mahayogi!  
Ps..some nice posts from Victor" 
http://victorsway.eu/true/paul.htm 

St Paul, the liar



‘Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned.’ Romans 5:12 

No other lie dreamt up by a religious fanatic has had such a destructive and demoralising effect upon European and Arabian humanity as the above off the cuff remark by the Jew Saul of Tarsus turned Christian St Paul. Here is a classic example of the victim of a crime being blamed for the crime. It was St Augustine of Hippo who with his flaky notion of Original Sin, derived from Paul’s lie, eventually turned all human victims, even the righteous, into sinners (i.e. criminals) and gave the Christian Church absolute power over its charges.

And the (alleged) crime was and is ‘system’s failure’ (to wit: sin) that results in (disease, old age and) death. The Jew Saul derived his opinion from the archaic Jewish fable of Adam & Eve, deliberately redacted by a Hebrew priest from a simple passage story in the Gilgamesh Epos into a Jewish crime and punishment story. Someone other than the creator himself (to wit, the Elohim) had to be blamed for failure (i.e. sin ≈ evil) in the world. Ever female hating, the Jewish priest who concocted the Adam & Eve story, and the female (flesh) hating Jew Paul who misused the story, claimed that system’s failure (i.e. sin) was acquired (following Lamarck) by the disobedience of the female and then transmitted to her offspring (in the semen of the male, so St Augustine). The trumped up charge of disobedience was neither admitted nor proven in the story, as anyone who seeks the truth can read.

Sin, i.e. system’s failure (and death, i.e. when feeder becomes fodder), is not an acquired trait but a necessary design element (inserted by God and/or mutation + natural selection). Obviously, had death not been intended/planned by the Elohiym (to wit: the ‘Powers’) there would have been no need for a Tree of Life in the Kindergarten in Eden.

What the liar and religious conman Saul of Tarsus deliberately fails to tell his Roman readers is that in the story that purports to describe the Fall (so Martin Luther) into failure (i.e. sin) the Adam is actually raised to the status of the Elohiym. In short, the adam is promoted (to the status of an Elohiym ≈ god ≈ merely adult) rather than demoted.* But then, Paul was a religious fanatic who cared nought for the truth.

Genesis 3:22   “And Yehovah** Elohiym said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and bad: and so on…

*… and which makes the question about the need of ‘the second coming’ (to wit, the 2nd Adam) so intriguing and the reason for his outburst on the Cross, namely: ‘Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani.’   
**… The word Yehovah is suddenly, probably belatedly introduced into the story to bring it up to date with the later invention of the notion of Yehovah.



© 2016 Victor Langheld  
http://victorsway.eu/true/parents%20lie.htm 

What if my parents lied?




 What if my parents and my priest lied to me as a child when they told me that there is one God above (i.e. in heaven) and that God is great, all-knowing, all-powerful, complete and perfect in every way, eternal and so on?
What if as mature adult I have come to realise that the opposite is
   As a child I was told by my Christian priest that creation/nature happens top-down and is planned (i.e. by God). As mature adult I have come to experience creation, and my part in it, as an on-going, bottom-up series of accidents that momentarily complete. As a child I was told that my purpose in life was to reach heaven (i.e. in the next life). However, what I discovered by painful experience was that heaven (indeed, this wonderful natural world) happens as side-effect of my escape from hell. In simple terms, God, finding himself in the hell of incompleteness, creates heaven (i.e. momentary completeness) as means of escape from hell/incompleteness.

true, namely that the one God is not above but below, as it were in hell, and that IT operates as a very basic and simple escape-from-hell* algorithm?
Mature adult observation of nature** suggests that the one God functions as tiny, smart, incomplete, blind (i.e. non-relativised ≈ not-knowing) almost powerless, wholly recursive, momentary (i.e. quantised) drive to generate otherness ≈ life. And that tiny (≈ nano) God operates (i.e. sustains and grows itself) as ruthless predatory self-regulating Guide & Control algorithm that endlessly copies and
and mutates (i.e. adapts and so self-regulates) itself to become ever more powerful, more knowledgeable (i.e. more  formally elaborate), thereby achieving ever greater survival capacity and completeness.****

   ‘God (i.e. El, Eli, Elia, Yahweh, Allah) is One’* (e.g. ‘One without a Second’, so the ancient Indian Upanishad). One, as Gödel demonstrated and everyone can experience, is incomplete. One as such cannot be proven or prove itself.* Hence if ‘God is One’ then he is fundamentally incomplete (and which in ancient wisdom meant ‘sinful’), hence not great!***
    God becomes a real One by means of random (i.e. accidental) collision with a Second (or alternative). For God to become real, all-knowing, all-powerful and fully complete (albeit momentarily) he needs to generate (i.e. create) mutated (i.e. elaborated) copies of himself with which he collides at random and serially, thereby proving himself real and with identity.
*… idem ‘Great’
What if the one (tiny, momentary, wholly recursive, self-regulating) God (≈ creation algorithm) is merely potentially (i.e. virtually) great, all-knowing, all-powerful, complete, eternal and so on and that It’s actual mutated (or adapted, i.e. by accident/chance) copies (such as the human or the ant) gradually evolve to make It (i.e. as totality of its real, everyday copies, i.e. all of nature, ‘tooth and claw’) actually great, all-knowing, all-powerful, well-ad-justed, perfect, eternal (i.e. as endless series of actual, because real moments) and so on? 

What if the one God, as most basic Guide & Control algorithm, does not rule/regulate from above, as it were from heaven, as my parents and my priest claimed, but rules/regulates from below, as it were from hell (i.e. being a state of incomplete-ness, like the aftermath of the Big Bang) and then gradually evolves (i.e. self-elaborates) upwards through countless mutated (i.e. adapted) self-copies to the heaven above that is this beautiful, magical world here and now? What if the one God acts as very primitive and incomplete beginning of life (i.e. like a blind, voracious and all-demanding new-born baby), that is to say, as nature ‘tooth and claw’, and that his current local copy, i.e. man (i.e. the human adult, i.e. the actual ‘powers that be’, in ancient Hebrew called ‘the Elohim’), performs as the one God’s currently most complete, hence most perfect actual (because real) self-expression?

    For ‘below’ understand Meister Eckhart’s ‘God ground’, i.e. as ever presenting bottom–up creation potential. For ‘above’ understand ‘God as surface display’, i.e. as actual and very real, albeit transient top-down creation.
 What if ‘as below, so above’.  What if God (as Guide & Control algorithm, i.e. as effective (albeit virtual) creation procedure) gradually self-elaborates as man (indeed as all of nature) in order to actually become real, great, all-knowing, all-powerful, complete, eternal and so on?****

What if the one incomplete tiny God-as-blind-drive-to-life (read: ‘otherness’) is neither good nor bad and that Its actual completed applications (i.e. its adapted copies, such as man or ant as accidental end states) appear good or bad depending on how perfectly they replicate It (i.e. the rules that define It) in the momentary here and now?

So why did my parents and my (Church of Ireland) priest lie to me? So why did the chief imam in the mosque in Gaya in India lie to me when he claimed that “Allah is One! Allah is Great!”?,****** So why do parents lie to their children?

*… For ‘hell’ read: incompleteness (i.e. not arrived, open, undecided). For ‘heaven’ read: completeness (i.e. arrived, closed, decided).
**… For ‘nature’ read: fractal elaborations of the God algorithm. All fractal elaborations present as alternatives, i.e. as it were as siblings or neighbours. Hence ‘Love your neighbour (or indeed your seeming enemy) as yourself!’ The immature encounter the ‘other’ as opposite, hence as a predator or prey). The the mature respond to the ‘other’ as alternative, hence as fundamentally equal (wherefrom democracy and cooperation spring).
****… Creation (by God or any one of his (recursive) local elaborations, for instance a human or a blade of grass) is need driven. God is driven by the need (self-signalled with the varieties of suffering) to escape from, i.e. to free himself from incompleteness. He achieves his goal, namely completeness (albeit momentary, hence also incomplete), first by generating a moment of absolute is’ness (i.e. a 1c2 realness quantum), then by sequencing series of such realness moments/quanta to generate real form (i.e. as identity), which when responded to, i.e. self-reflected are experienced as consciousness. In short, this beautiful, magical world here and now happens as side-effect of the forever incomplete God’s drive to momentary completeness (perfection and so on).
*****… The simple (hence with maximum adaptation flexibility) nano primitive virtual (i.e. unreal) impotent ignorant blind unjust god of beginnings (i.e. as initial state) evolves Itself via its adapted copies to become the great complex sophisticated actual (i.e. real) omnipotent omniscient all-seeing, well-adjusted God of endings (i.e. as end state)?
******… ‘One’ (≈ 1 ≈ a monad) is unprovable (i.e. unreal, unknowable), hence incomplete, hence less than great.    ‘A single point cannot be grasped.’ (Victor 1980)


© 2016 Victor Langheld
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 Lead me from dreaming to waking.
Lead me from opacity to clarity.
Lead me from the complicated to the simple.
Lead me from the obscure to the obvious.
Lead me from intention to attention.
Lead me from what I'm told I am to what I see I am.
Lead me from confrontation to wide openness.
Lead me to the place I never left,
Where there is peace, and peace - The Upanishads 
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To nourish the vital energy, keep watch in silence;



In order to subdue the mind, act with non-action.



Of movement and stillness, be aware of their origin;



There is no work to do, much less someone to seek.



The true and constant must respond to phenomena;



Responding to phenomena, you must be unconfused.



When unconfused, the nature will stabilize by itself;



When the nature stabilizes, energy returns by itself.



When energy returns, the elixir crystallizes by itself;



Within the pot, the trigrams of kǎn and lí are joined.



Yīn and yáng arise, alternating over and over again;



Every transformation comes like a clap of thunder.



White clouds form and come to assemble at the peak;



The sweet nectar sprinkles down Mount Sumeru.



Swallow for yourself this wine of immortality;



You wander so freely—who is able to know you?



Sit and listen to the tune played without strings;



Clearly understand the mechanism of creation.



It comes entirely from these twenty lines;



A true ladder going straight to Heaven.-Daoist text -
"The center of the cyclone is that rising quiet central low-pressure place in which one can learn to live eternally. Just outside of this Center is the rotating storm of one's own ego, competing with other egos in a furious high-velocity circular dance. As one leaves center, the roar of rotating wind deafens on more and more as one joins this dance. One's centered thinking-feeling-being, one's own Satoris, are in the center only, not outside. One's pushed-pulled driven states, one's anti-Satori modes of functioning, one's self-created hells, are outside the center. In the center of the cyclone one is off the wheel of Karma, of life, rising to join the Creators of the Universe, the Creators of us.

Here we find that we have created Them who are Us...

Lilly's Law

"In the province of the mind, what is believed to be true is true or becomes true, within certain limits to be found experimentally. These limits are further beliefs to be transcended. In the province of the(true mind..added by danny) mind, there are no limits."" -- John C. Lilly -

Unless you know the emptiness and bliss inside yourself..you'll be a robot forced by the same emptiness and bliss trying to know itself..by pain..inside your self also..trust me!..said the mahayogi!

The student asked: “A sage's response to changing conditions

is unlimited. Does he have to study beforehand?”

He should worry only about his mind's not being

clear, and not about the inability to respond to all changing conditions.”
— Wang Yang Ming (1472-1529)

To us all towns are one, all men our kin. Life's good comes not from others' gift, nor ill. Man's pains and pains' relief are from within. Thus have we seen in visions of the wise !." - Tamil Poem-