Lead me from opacity to clarity. Lead me from the complicated to the simple. Lead me from the obscure to the obvious. Lead me from intention to attention. Lead me from what I'm told I am to what I see I am. Lead me from confrontation to wide openness. Lead me to the place I never left, Where there is peace, and peace -
*note* I will try to explain what Maruti Kambli(or the Maharaj) explains..
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Questioner: I am a retired chartered accountant and my wife is engaged in social work for poor women. Our son is leaving for the United States and we came to see him off. We are Panjabis but we live in Delhi. We have a Guru of the Radha-Soami faith and we value satsang highly. We feel very fortunate to be brought here. We have met many holy people and we are glad to meet one more.
Maharaj: You have met many anchorites and ascetics, but a fully realized man conscious of his divinity (swarupa) is hard to find. The saints and Yogis, by immense efforts and sacrifices, acquire many miraculous powers and can do much good in the way of helping people and inspiring faith, yet it does not make them perfect.
*note* the Kambli explains this really good....he means the yogis or saints are still bound on the consciousness factor,which is fractal..personal,family,nation,and finally universal...on that final level,they think they are gods,even the SOURCE ....THINK!..everything is in the SOURCE..you can't be the source..you are inside the SOURCE,always!!!!
Ponder!..this means they have NOT transcended the chains binding them...that's what he tries to say...but of course,Kambli never encountered sahaja yoga,where your kundalini is raised without effort in minutes,even so in a small amount,to give you the taste of the heaven...then is up to you if you cultivate it..remember the attention is the ONLY POWER you have..the rest is the resonant factor of interdependent universal mind you happened to put your attention on...you are ALWAYS a resonator,unless you unite your MIND with the Energy...and understand the process...be aware of my words..thus SPOKENTH THE MAHAYOGI!
(added by danny)
It is not a way to reality, but merely an enrichment of the false. All effort leads to more effort; whatever was built up must be maintained, whatever was acquired must be protected against decay or loss. Whatever can be lost is not really one's own; and what is not your own of what use can it be to you? In my world nothing is pushed about, all happens by itself. All existence is in space and time, limited and temporary. He who experiences existence is also limited and temporary. I am not concerned either with 'what exists' or with 'who exists'. I take my stand beyond, where I am both and neither.
*note*both and neither he explains about something else..imagine 1 plus 1 equal 2..and you think 2 is different..in real spirituality..2 is 1..then 2 is zero..then 2 is both 1 plus 1..in other words,is a very difficult topic to explain..you are both ,and neither...
Only those whom had access to high samadhi levels,or those in Nirvikalpa could understand this.
Imagine a different vibration level..and it contains the others..see?..grasshoppers?
That's the most I can explain,because is neither this,nor that,but is INSIDE of this or that..PONDER!..and also outside..this will boggle your mind,don't try to understand...YOU'LL GET A HEADACHE..-added by danny-
The persons who, after much effort and penance, have fulfilled their ambitions and secured higher levels of experience and action, are usually acutely conscious of their standing; they grade people into hierarchies, ranging from the lowest non-achiever to the highest achiever. To me all are equal. Differences in appearance and expression are there, but they do not matter.
*note* the spirit is one,he means..
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Just as the shape of a gold ornament does not affect the gold, so does man's essence remain unaffected. Where this sense of equality is lacking it means that reality had not been touched.
Mere knowledge is not enough; the knower must be known. The Pandits and the Yogis may know many things, but of what use is mere knowledge when the self is not known? It will be certainly misused. Without the knowledge of the knower there can be no peace.
*note*..Knowledge of the Knower..what does this means?
Think...there is someone inside you whom knows that you're knowing.
Find that in meditation,and you''ll be ok..
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Q: How does one come to know the knower?
M: I can only tell you what I know from my own experience. When I met my Guru, he told me: 'You are not what you take yourself to be. Find out what you are. Watch the sense 'I am', find your real self'. I obeyed him, because I trusted him. I did as he told me. All my spare time I would spend looking at myself in silence. And what a difference it made, and how soon! It took me only three years to realise my true nature. My Guru died soon after I met him, but it made no difference. I remembered what he told me and persevered. The fruit of it is here, with me.
*note* that is dedication..he just trusted the message...and tried to see if is true..that's true commitment,indeed..
-added by danny-Q: What is it?
M: I know myself as I am in reality. I am neither the body, nor the mind, nor the mental faculties. I am beyond all these.
Q: Are you just nothing?
M: Come on, be reasonable. Of course I am, most tangibly. Only I am not what you may think me to be. This tells you all.
Q: It tells me nothing.
M: Because it cannot be told. You must gain your own experience.
*note* this stuff can't be told,nore explained..it would be like someone explaining you the rays of sunshine,while you have lived in a dark cave all your life..only if you DO you can KNow..PONDER!..you are what you DO not what you believe,or imagine..by knowing the sunshine..you'll KNOW it by yourself..that was what Kambli tried to convey.
-added by danny-You are accustomed to deal with things, physical and mental. I am not a thing, nor are you. We are neither matter nor energy, neither body nor mind. Once you have a glimpse of your own being, you will not find me difficult to understand.
We believe in so many things on hearsay. We believe in distant lands and people, in heavens and hells, in gods and goddesses, because we were told. Similarly, we were told about ourselves, our parents, name, position, duties and so on. We never cared to verify. The way to truth lies through the destruction of the false. To destroy the false, you must question your most inveterate beliefs. Of these the idea that you are the body is the worst. With the body comes the world, with the world -- God, who is supposed to have created the world and thus it starts -- fears, religions, prayers, sacrifices, all sorts of systems -- all to protect and support the child-man, frightened out of his wits by monsters of his own making. realize that what you are cannot be born nor die and with the fear gone all suffering ends.
*note* is it interesting that the Kambli just tells you what to do,like you could do it..
If that was so simple,humanity would be a happy heaven on earth by now..the fact that he got the ultimate truth is good..but to tell people that using mind they can ,by simple realizing ,,that you can not be born,or die,,is simple cretinism,since is like telling a chicken to understand that he is the Source.(which he is,by the way..)
That's why mahayogis like me are born..to give you the methods..-added by danny-
What the mind invents, the mind destroys. But the real is not invented and cannot be destroyed. Hold on to that over which the mind has no power. What I am telling you about is neither in the past nor in the future. Nor is it in the daily life as it flows in the now. It is timeless and the total timelessness of it is beyond the mind. My Guru and his words: 'You are myself' are timelessly with me. In the beginning I had to fix my mind on them, but now it has become natural and easy. The point when the mind accepts the words of the Guru as true and lives by them spontaneously and in every detail of daily life is the threshold of realization. In a way it is salvation by faith, but the faith must be intense and lasting.
*note* craving,not faith..craving for a PROVEN method..not faith..faith can only open up your karmik choices..faith is blind..prove IT TO me,and I'll be ok,KAMBLI...!!!!
-ADDED BY DANNY-
However, you must not think that faith itself is enough. Faith expressed in action is a sure means to realization. Of all the means it is the most effective. There are teachers who deny faith and trust reason only. Actually it is not faith they deny, but blind beliefs. Faith is not blind. It is the willingness to try.
*note*..You are myself,,..remember my quote ""To us all towns are one, all men our kin. Life's good comes not from others' gift, nor ill. Man's pains and pains' relief are from within. Thus have we seen in visions of the wise !." - Tamil Poem-"-added by danny- ok?
Q: We were told that of all forms of spiritual practices the practice of the attitude of a mere witness is the most efficacious. How does it compare with faith?
*note*the witness is autonomous ..if you try to witness,you're not there.,nore connected with IT,your true self...but in the beginning you must.
-added by danny-M: The witness attitude is also faith; it is faith in oneself. You believe that you are not what you experience and you look at everything as from a distance. There is no effort in witnessing. You understand that you are the witness only and the understanding acts. You need nothing more, just remember that you are the witness only. If in the state of witnessing you ask yourself: 'Who am I?', the answer comes at once, though it is wordless and silent. Cease to be the object and become the subject of all that happens; once having turned within, you will find yourself beyond the subject. When you have found yourself, you will find that you are also beyond the object, that both the subject and the object exist in you, but you are neither.
*note*the witness is autonomous ..if you try to witness,you're not there.,nore connected with IT,your true self...but in the beginning you must...READ AGAIN My wisdom!!-added by danny-Q: You speak of the mind, of the witnessing consciousness beyond the mind and of the Supreme, which is beyond awareness. Do you mean to say that even awareness is not real?
M: As long as you deal in terms: real -- unreal; awareness is the only reality that can be. But the Supreme is beyond all distinctions and to it the term 'real' does not apply, for in it all is real and, therefore, need not be labelled as such. It is the very source of reality, it imparts reality to whatever it touches. It just cannot be understood through words. Even a direct experience, however sublime, merely bears testimony, nothing more.
*note* real does NOT apply,since both real and false are one....however there is the resonance factor of the one whom is joy..wisdom and power..that one is a resonant factor,unless you make it permanent thru understand,be careful..on that level,even energy is false...ponder of my mahayogi words..grasshoppers from heaven...
-added by danny-Q: But who creates the world?
M: The Universal Mind (chidakash) makes and unmakes everything. The Supreme (paramakash) imparts reality to whatever comes into being. To say that it is the universal love may be the nearest we can come to it in words. Just like love it makes everything real, beautiful, desirable.
*note* rather think ,,unity,, and,, individuality,,..the ONE can't know itself other then thru you,even so you are the One,but you don't know it..Paradox?..get use to them..whom said you could ever understand the mystery of creation ?..nobody can.
-added by danny-Q: Why desirable?
M: Why not? Where from come all the powerful attractions that make all created things respond to each other, that bring people together, if not from the Supreme? Shun not desire; see only that it flows into the right channels. Without desire you are dead. But with low desires you are a ghost.
*note* he means concentrate on the pure desire,to know the TRUTH..that's all..
-added by danny-Q: What is the experience which comes nearest to the Supreme?
M: Immense peace and boundless love... realize that whatever there is true, noble and beautiful in the universe, it all comes from you, that you yourself are at the source of it. The gods and goddesses that supervise the world may be most wonderful and glorious beings; yet they are like the gorgeously dressed servants who proclaim the power and the riches of their master.
*note* he means the Supreme Emptiness is the source of gods also..but they forgot it,and take it as permanent ..
-added by danny-Q: How does one reach the Supreme State?
M: By renouncing all lesser desires. As long as you are pleased with the lesser, you cannot have the highest. Whatever pleases you, keeps you back. Until you realise the unsatisfactoriness of everything, its transiency and limitation, and collect your energies in one great longing, even the first step is not made. On the other hand, the integrity of the desire for the Supreme is by itself a call from the Supreme. Nothing, physical or mental, can give you freedom. You are free once you understand that your bondage is of your own making and you cease forging the chains that bind you.
*note* what you love also LOVES YOU..you don't have to worry about it..the SOURCE knows how to awaken you,if you have that desire..trust the mahayogi..or trust the Source inside you.
-added by danny-Q: How does one find the faith in a Guru?
M: To find the Guru and also the trust in him is rare luck. It does not happen often.
Q: Is it destiny that ordains?
M: Calling it destiny explains little. When it happens you cannot say why it happens and you merely cover up your ignorance by calling it karma or Grace, or the Will of God.
Q: Krishnamurti says that Guru is not needed.
*note* I regard Krishnamurti as an idiot..I really am not sure what he was about..
Only an idiot would say that no guru is needed.
Is like saying that after you are born,you don't need someone to teach you any language.
Krishnamurti was NOT realized in my opinion...-added by danny-
M: Somebody must tell you about the Supreme Reality and the way that leads to it. Krishnamurti is doing nothing else. In a way he is right -- most of the so-called disciples do not trust their Gurus; they disobey them and finally abandon them. For such disciples it would have been infinitely better if they had no Guru at all and just looked within for guidance. to find a living Guru is a rare opportunity and a great responsibility. One should not treat these matters lightly. You people are out to buy yourself the heaven and you imagine that the Guru will supply it for a price. You seek to strike a bargain by offering little but asking much. You cheat nobody except yourselves.
Q: You were told by your Guru that you are the Supreme and you trusted him and acted on it. What gave you this trust?
M: Say, I was just reasonable. It would have been foolish to distrust him. What interest could he possibly have in misleading me?
Q: You told a questioner that we are the same, that we are equals. I cannot believe it. Since I do not believe it, of what use is your statement to me?
M: Your disbelief does not matter. My words are true and they will do their work. This is the beauty of noble company (satsang).
*note* eghhh..Kambli talks again about some secrets..you see..when a realized man talks..the words remain in other people's minds...it comes with the power aspect...why is thaT?..BECAUSE THE TRUTH IN YOU KNOWS...even if you don't...PONDER.........-ADDED BY DANNY-
Q: Just sitting near you can it be considered spiritual practice?
M: Of course. The river of life is flowing. Some of its water is here, but so much of it has already reached its goal. You know only the present. I see much further into the past and future, into what you are and what you can be. I cannot but see you as myself. It is in the very nature of love to see no difference.
Q: How can I come to see myself as you see me?
M: It is enough if you do not imagine yourself to be the body. It is the 'I-am-the-body' idea that is so calamitous. It blinds you completely to your real nature. Even for a moment do not think that you are the body. Give yourself no name, no shape. In the darkness and the silence reality is found.
Q: Must not I think with some conviction that I am not the body? Where am I to find such conviction?
M: Behave as if you were fully convinced and the confidence will come. What is the use of mere words? A formula, a mental pattern will not help you. But unselfish action, free from all concern with the body and its interests will carry you into the very heart of Reality.
Q: Where am I to get the courage to act without conviction?
M: Love will give you the courage. When you meet somebody wholly admirable, love-worthy, sublime, your love and admiration will give you the urge to act nobly.
Q: Not everybody knows to admire the admirable. Most of the people are totally insensitive.
M: Life will make them appreciate. The very weight of accumulated experience will give them eyes to see. When you meet a worthy man, you will love and trust him and follow his advice. This is the role of the realised people -- to set an example of perfection for others to admire and love. Beauty of life and character is a tremendous contribution to the common good.
Q: Must we not suffer to grow?
M: It is enough to know that there is suffering, that the world suffers. By themselves neither pleasure nor pain enlighten. Only understanding does. Once you have grasped the truth that the world is full of suffering, that to be born is a calamity, you will find the urge and the energy to go beyond it. Pleasure puts you to sleep and pain wakes you up. If you do not want to suffer, don't go to sleep. You cannot know yourself through bliss alone, for bliss is your very nature. You must face the opposite, what you are not, to find enlightenment.
*note* no more comments..HERE KAMBLI IN HIS SUPERIOR WISDOM explains the make-up of the universe...read again..you MUST face the opposite,what you are not..to find what you really are..since bliss is your very nature,you'd not believe it..see?..that is the secret of the creation itself,and the individualization process ...whom have ears to hear,let them hear...you are here to EXPERIENCE THIS!!!!
Thus spokenth the mahayogi to the bewildered grasshoppers from heaven!
Thus spokenth the mahayogi to the bewildered grasshoppers from heaven!
-added by danny-
Of movement and stillness, be aware of their origin;
There is no work to do, much less someone to seek.
The true and constant must respond to phenomena;
Responding to phenomena, you must be unconfused.
When unconfused, the nature will stabilize by itself;
When the nature stabilizes, energy returns by itself.
When energy returns, the elixir crystallizes by itself;
Within the pot, the trigrams of heaven and earth are joined.
Yīn and yáng arise, alternating over and over again;
Every transformation comes like a clap of thunder.
White clouds form and come to assemble at the peak;
The sweet nectar sprinkles down Mount Sumeru.
Swallow for yourself this wine of immortality;
You wander so freely—who is able to know you?
Sit and listen to the tune played without strings;
Clearly understand the mechanism of creation.
It comes entirely from these twenty lines;
A true ladder going straight to Heaven.-Daoist text -
To us all towns are one, all men our kin. Life's good comes not from others' gift, nor ill. Man's pains and pains' relief are from within. Thus have we seen in visions of the wise !." - Tamil Poem-
Hakuin does not sketch himself in the idealized form of an enlightened one, or even in the realistic image of an austere zenji, but as a bald, fat, cross-eyed and hunch-backed old man...but then he kissed you:)...Lovely story of the creation purpose...shakti means manifestation,and shiva means the origin of it..the kiss is the joy of emptiness knowing itself...kisses from the mahayogi to you,grasshoppers from heaven!